and a free upgrade to priority shipping. but hurry. time is running out on this special anniversary offer, so call the number on your screen right now. this has been a paid presentation for principal secret reclaim, created by victoria principal, created by victoria principal, presented by guthy-renker. captioned by video caption corporation www.vicaps.com

this week on our world with black enterprise i sit down with rapper actor and reality star, ti. then they take on the issue of depression in the african-american community and finally they profile an artistic

safe haven in harlem. that's what's going on in our world up next. our world with black enterprise is sponsored by the

t welcome back to "our world

with black enterprise." his southern swag and woody lyrics put him on the map in the late '90ed. our rap is the self proclaimed trouble man about his family and more. >> thanks for spending some time with me. >> my pleasure. >> you're in new york on the book tour. tell us about this first leg of the book tour. >> we're out here reaching the primary outlets to promote the release of the second installment of the book "trouble and triumphs." >> i thought it was going to be a nonfiction. now it's rare to write novels. >> right. that's why i did it. i just really don't know how to do a biography right now. i think i would be the youngest cat on the show with a biography at this point and i don't know how to end it. you also have a very, very vibrant acting career right now.

you've done film and now you're about to start the second season of "boss." >> you are a man with influence and community. foot soldiers at the ready who know how to disturb the peace. the bombs bursting in air. i assume that means more to you than drunken sing alongs at a sox game. >> sir, i was just hoping to have a more legitimate role in things. >> so many rappers they play raers or they play characters that are a stretch for them. how important is it for you to play somebody who's different? >> it's very important, man, to flex my muscle, man, as an actor. i look forward to opportunities that would allow me to, you know, just expand on my ability and to surprise people. you know, i think that in order to grow as an actor you have to challenge yourself. >> we don't always like our marching orders, but we march.

>> i want the names of ross's appointees in order to preserve a 25% return rate to the gardens. >> privileged information. >> chapman, powell. simmons. >> look, if you want to be in good with my boss, maybe leaving his office for the mayor's wasn't your best move, you think? >> tell me about this role in boss. what is it like? >> it's a stretch for me. this gentleman is in politics still it's a familiar place for me as well because in chicago and in the show if you watch it you'll see how closely related politics is with the street. >> yeah, yeah, no r, and i understand that. i think you're the chop for it. that's what surprises people. when you do interviews and you're in these places. people often remark how surprised they are at how talented and articulate you are. i'm not so surprised. why is that so surprising? >> i'm a rapper.

>> plenty of smart rappers. >> so do i. still, they continue to be surprised. >> yeah. >> i mean, who knows, man. but, i mean, i guess that's -- that's -- that's -- that's just a part of the world or something about the world that it'll take me and other people like me coming up, you know, to follow. it'll take change. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> now you're well established in hip-hop. you're about to release your eighth album at some point this year. >> yeah. >> what's it going to be called? >> "trouble man." >> is that a direct link to marvin gay? >> not a direct link. the lyrics in that record, it kind of outlines, you know, what i -- what i have endured as a

man and, you know, how people view me as an artist. >> you've had your share of troubles, legal troubles and otherwise. how important has it been for you to deal with the hell and odyssey with your fans? >> that's just who i am as a man. that's who i am as a man. you hear that in my music and in speaking to me. integrity, moral standards and principles. so anything i got to deal with, that's the only way i know to deal with it. >> what's within your way of dealing with it? has it been family? has it been faith? what has been your -- >> all of the above. family, faith, artistic expression. >> how central is family to your life on a day to day? >> i mean, it always has been, you know? it always has been. ever since i've been a celebrity or a professional musician, if you will. my kids and just my immediate family has always been ever

present. >> shut it down. family meeting. >> right now? >> right now. >> hey, everybody. what is the problem with you guys? you are wasting a perfectly sunny summer day. you know what, that settles it. we going camping. i'm going to let you in on a little secret. i've never been camping, but neither have they. how hard can it be? >> you have millions of fans and people in the world who appreciate your journey, your struggle and your talent. give one piece of advice for them to move forward in a positive way, what would it be? >> any time you looking to achieve a certain level of success you've got to expect a certain level of hard work. you've got to be prepared to sacrifice. you've got to be prepared for the pain that you must endure because nothing worth having comes without hard work or sacrifice. it's just hand in hand. >> still to come, how depression

may be affecting the black community in a unique way. >> we think we love ourselves. we talk a good game about loving ourselves, but when you allow people to treat you a certain way, you are not loving yourself. ♪ [ male announcer can a car be built around a state of mind? ♪ announcing the all-new 2013 malibu from chevrolet. ♪ with a remarkable new interior featuring the available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. this is where sophisticated styling begins. and where it ends? that's up to you. it's here -- the greatest malibu ever. ♪

welcome back to "our world with black enterprise." depression is an illness that affects many people in the african-american community yet too often it remains in the dark. how can we talk about depression and other mental illness without the shame. here to talk to us is the founder of the sea way project.

i'm also joined by jeff gardier who is a psychologist and terry williams who is the author of the critically acclaimed book, "black pain, it just looks like we're not hurting." i read about people who struggle about depression but they never discuss it. why is that happening? >> i think it's the ultimate stigma. many of us see it as a character flaw, sign of weakness. because we're a very faith-based people, we think that to do anything other than to take it to the lord and prayer is blasphemy. >> we also see that there are genetic factors, that there is her t heritabilaty. in most cases people feel like they're not responsible. why can't you just get out of bed? why can't you just get up and go to work? why is it you just moping

around? just pull yourself together. i think when people hear that it pushes them further into depression and they become ashamed of something that other people think that they are now responsible for. >> and i don't think that people really understand that it is a medical condition. i think people think it's something, like you said, a character flaw, something they can get over, something that they're not trying hard enough to deal with. >> i know people who often think, look, i'm just sad a lot or i'm tired a lot. i don't think that they necessarily self-assess in a way to know. >> i think you're right about that, mark. i was going to say that. for many of us, we haven't named our pain. we don't know what it looks like, feels like, or sounds like, but it's literally everywhere we turn. when we don't deal with our day-to-day challenges as well as those of our past, we self-medicate. we will do anything to not feel the real pain that we're in. >> what is self-medication? >> we self-medicate with drugs, alcohol, food, work, promiscuous

unprotected sex, shopping when we don't have any money, gambling and the violence we see in our streets every single day. >> that's why it's so important that people do understand what it is that they have, naming that pain. being diagnosed. do you have a uni polar depression which is sadness more days than none for a period of two weeks where you just completely disponded or do you have a dysthymia which is sort of like a chronic low level sort of depression that you're carrying for two years? is it something like a bipolar or psy? we need to get the proper treatment. there are some great antidepressants that are out there. there are some side effects but they're revolutionizing how people are dealing with their depressions. >> i have bipolar 2 disorder and i say i have as opposed to i am

bipolar because it's what i have. i think that once people realize that -- >> can you say a little bit about that distinction? that's important. >> the difference between by polar one and bipolar 2? >> the difference between saying i have versus i am. >> when you say i am you become the disease. you become everything that goes with that disease. and when i say that i have it, it is something separate from myself that i can take care of. we have so much trouble, a, admitting that we have a problem but then going to spine help. then we have this we don't want to air our dirty laundry, we don't want to talk to other people about what's going on in our house. that's what's killing us. it's almost like we feel like suffering is part of blackness, which is -- >> that was the other question i had because i know for black people but especially black women there's already an expectation that you're going to be resilient, that you're going to be tough. black women carry so much of a load. depression seems like it's par

for the course. it makes women seem as if they're weak if they're not handling all their sadness and stress and trauma. >> that has been your mission, hasn't it, to talk about it? >> it really has been. the thing is, there's really no -- unless you go to see a therapist, there's no real safe place for you to go and speak about what it is that is in your heart and in your spirit. that's why to the amazing work that you're doing, speak all around the country and create a safe place for people. i start by sharing my own story and then the flood gates open because people realize that they're not standing on that ledge by themselves. >> just to jump on it. one of the major things is transparen transparency. i have the luxury of being able to talk openly because i don't have a 9:00 to 5:00. i don't have a boss. it's not going to ruin my life in any way. because i have that transparency, it allows somebody else. i just got back from therapy. my therapist said on twitter or on facebook or wherever i am

because it's something i wanted to share. it allows somebody else to sort of be with me privately. what's therapy like? that's somebody that's going to go find it out. it's a slow process. i thought we end stigma tomorrow. >> i think we need to go even more basic than that, and it's this whole idea of taking care of yourself.

joe biden's family standing behind him. the bible he is using is significant . wendall, good morning to you as we get ready for this. the bible has been in the biden family since the late 1800's. justice sotomayor will be the first to swear in the vice-president. the ceremony is held early because the justice has a book signing at noon. the constitution doesn't stipulate the time for his wearing n the president will take the oath here in the white house and tomorrow before 800,000 and a big parade. it is like getting married in city hall. the constitution requires the oath to be taken by the

president at noon on january 20th. but by tradition, the ceremony is not until sunday. here comes the vice-president. [applause] >> the vice-president has asked that we bless the occasion with prayer. so let us pray. the micah proclaims you have been told oh, mortal what is good and what the lord requires of

you. only to love justice and goodness and walk humbly with your god. gracious god, at this moment in history we ask your blessing on your servant joseph as he renews his sacred pledge to his country. amid all of the complexities of world so beautiful and broken give him a share of wisdom so he can know what is good and give him the courage to do always what is right. walk close by him so he can do justice and labor tirelessly for a more just and gentle world. empower him to be a voice without a voice and those on the margins so easy low overlooked for you will judge us all by how we care for the least among us. give him humility to call on you in times of need and with the gift of the faith given to

him by his church and family, help him to always know of your presence. lord, protect our president and vice-president and their families in their service to us all. ly we - finally, we thank you for peace and liberty and honor the sacrifice of our military and foreign service that safe guard these blessings daily and we renew our pledge as citizens to join them in a nobble - noble effort. help us to set aside self interest and meet each other on common ground to which you call us. we humbly offer the gifts for others and your greater glory, amen. >> mr. vice-president, are you ready, sir? >> i am.

>> please place your hand on the bible. repeat after me. >> i joseph r. biden do solemnly swear. >> i joseph r. biden will solemnly swear that i will support the constitution of the united states. against all enemies foreign and domestic and bear true faith and allegance to the same and that i take this obligation freely without mental reivation and purpose of evasion. >> without any mental purpose or evasion . >> and i will well and faithfully discharge. and i will well and faithfully discharge. >> the duties of the office of which i am about to enter. >> so help mow god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations. >> thank you, your honor.

[applause] >> along with his wife, jill by his side, we told you it was brief and indeed it was. only 80 words in length and sonya sotomayer, only four times in history has a woman had the honor of swearing in the vice-president. this time joe biden. the bible that is used today is part of the biden family going back to 1893. he has ud it since back when he was in the late 20s. we'll have another event that is a swearing-in of the president around noon eastern time. as you stated earlier today according to the u.s. constitution and.

>> i will be back in 40 minutes and hope you will be here. >> the vice-president speaking now. >> jill and me and madam, justice, it is an honor, a great honor. enjoy breakfast and we'll be back. >> justice sotomayer is taking the prudent precaution of actually having the oath of office written for her. you will remember that chief justice roberts did it from memory four years and he flubbed the oath of office that required them to reenact the ceremony privately here in the white house, and because of the fact that they are doing the ceremony sunday and monday, barack obama will be the only president other than fdr to be sworn in four times. fdr got four separate terms and mr. obama only gets two. >> wendall, the oath is short,

80 words in length and now breakfast, it was intriguing what you said in the out set. sonya sotomayer has a book signing. >> she has a book signing at noon in new york accord toth book store. we are trying to confirm why it was held this early. you couldn't be both places at once. the constitution doesn't stipulate a time as it does for the president. the president must be sworn in at noon. we'll see you back here for that. chris wallace is in the washington news room. this morning on fox news sunday. chris? >> this week on fox news sunday, president obama begins his second term facing tough challenges at home and over seas. how will the president pursue

his agenda and place in history. we'll ask two men. david plouffe, and then tough talk about gun control, we'll ask our sunday panel if congress will pass the president's plan to prevent more mass shootings all this week on fox news sunday. >> we look forward to that on the fox news network. i will be back in a couple of hours as president obama gets worn in to his second term and all of the ceremonis and events that take place tomorrow on the 21st of january. continue the corge on the this station . we are on line all of the time on fox news.com. have a terrific sunday morning. i am bill hemmer in new york. >>

that wraps it up for this edition of "our world for black enterprise." . visit us on the web. you can like us on facebook and visit us on twitter. thanks for watching. we're here next week. i'm here with the wrapper, the actor and the author, t.i. >> t.i., we appreciate you joining us. >> you're welcome. >> done. ♪ you know ♪ you know ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪